-Name?-
Why is Adam listed as Adam Faulkner when it says multiple times in his wiki page that his last name is Stanheight? I'm very confused as to why this is so..
GaaraxShukakuIScute 02:23, December 12, 2010 (UTC)GaaraxShukakuIScuteGaaraxShukakuIScute 02:23, December 12, 2010 (UTC)
in SAW 1 Adam's LEFT leg was in the shackle, but in saw 2 the shackle is on Adam's RIGHT leg that means that body is not Adam's it could be tapps or someone else. by the way they still haven't explained who is taking all those photos from SAW 2 - SAW 7 there is only 1 photographer in the whole SAW and that is Adam ! and Amanda didn't kill him "he faked his death" like he did in SAW 1 with the cigarette μiμο&μάξους 15:47, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
It was confirmed that he died, quit posting retarded shit. GodDamnBats 00:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
If It wasn't Adams body in saw 2, why would the corpse be wearing exactly the same clothes and have the same gunshot wound?
How can you say Adam's alive? He was suffocated to death. It's like if someone said Strahm was alive. We clearly saw his very brutal death. Adam is dead. He's been dead shortly after Saw. Get over it. Temporary signature is temporary 23:27, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
the other body that is in that bathroom then could be detective tapp because he wears a white t-shirt and blue jeans. he faked his death when amanda tried to suffocate him. μiμο&μάξους 07:21, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
He faked his death and THEN WHAT? Amanda left the bathroom after she suffocated him, so how would Adam get out?. GodDamnBats 07:45, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh8HqhzUrpw μiμο&μάξους 07:56, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Again, what then? If Adam survived, then why won't they show him or at least CONFIRM that he is alive. Little fan theories based on little screenshots cannot contradicts official confirmation. By the way, there won't be a Saw VIII (though I think there will be a third video game.) GodDamnBats 09:06, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Detective Tapp killed himself in his apartment. The police found his body. He did not wear a white t-shirt or blue jeans. Also, the official Saw website confirmed that Adam died. We clearly see Amanda suffocate Adam with a plastic bag. She even breaks his nose, causing blood to fill the bag for good measure. --98.221.196.38 12:21, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Detective Tapp didn;t kill himself. Zep killed him and not at his apartment. μiμο&μάξους 12:26, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Yo freaky Bro did you ever heard about Saw: The video game, That is also a part of the time line and if you knew that than you knew that Tapp killed him self in his apartment after the Games!!!
Itis true, the video games are canon to the films. GodDamnBats 02:59, April 20, 2011 (UTC)
Adam moved by Lawrence?[]
Alright, in Saw 3 when Amanda kills Adam (because she totaly does. Seriously now people, as much as I'd love to see my beautiful Leigh return, he dead. Just accept it) she drops him on the floor with the plastic bag still on his face and leaves. Why then in the other Saw movies where you see his body, is he in a sitting position against the wall? I'm not trying to sound like a fangirl here, but hear me out. Lawrence dosen't seem like the kind of person to go back on his word, and he said he'd come back for Adam. I'm thinking that maybe Lawrence did come back, but he was too late, so since he couldn't save Adam, he made up for it by removing the bag and placing him an a more peaceful position (since he couldn't really remove his body because of the chain). It seems like the kind of thing he would do, just not leaving him lying there pitifully on the floor with a bag still on his face. I think it's a nice idea anyway, that someone would have wanted Adam to rest in peace. Agree? 76.254.214.169 01:29, April 22, 2011 (UTC)GaaraxShukakuIScute
Interesting, but I think that's just yet another error. GodDamnBats 20:45, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
What about the key!?[]
Hi all.
I've been almost going crazy, trying to figure out the thing with the key....
Amanda did not do as Jigsaw said, and threw the key in the tub,
but what was Jigsaw planning with this key? That Adam would just find it right away and
the walk out? That would be a really short film. =)
Have I missed something, please tell me! RebKean 17:09, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
Adam was tested because he was a voyeur. If the key wasn't drained, he just needed to look around and he could find it easily. That is my theory... -DoubleBarrelAdam
The Bathroom Trap was mostly Gordon's test, so I think that Jigsaw wanted to make Gordon's game more difficult by making Adam's test easy. GodDamnBats 04:58, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
If the Bathroom Trap was mostly Gordon's test, what was Adam's test? Click here for total epicness 02:08, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
Well, if Amanda put the key around his neck like John said, all Adam would need to do is find it and leave before Gordon found a way to kill him. GodDamnBats 07:10, May 8, 2011 (UTC)
Indeed, what was Adam's test? I think this was an error on the filmmakers' part, much like how Amanda's drugged cellmate didn't have any way of escaping, thus breaking Jigsaw's now infamous MO. TheMattMan095 07:37, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
Deleted Death Scene?[]
On the wiki page it says that the scene where Amanda returns to the bathroom and suffocates Adam with a plastic sheet is a deleted scene, but I have the movie on DVD and I have seen it on TV and both showings include the scene in the actual movie, not as a bonus clip. The DVD is unrated, which might explain it, but the TV version I watched was censored for television and it still contained the scene. It's not a deleted scene, it's canon to the film. 76.254.214.169 22:01, October 20, 2011 (UTC)GaaraxShukakuIScute76.254.214.169 22:01, October 20, 2011 (UTC)
From what I've heard, that scene was deleted, but if it's on the DVD and TV versions of Saw III, I guess it wasn't a deleted scene. TroopDude 23:48, October 20, 2011
But then again, was your DVD a special edition or something? And in some TV showings for movies, a few scenes are extended on very rare occasions. Like the extended ending for Child's Play 2. TroopDude 20:59, November 4, 2011 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. The death of Adam was shown in the theatrical version. I know because I saw the movie when it came out. None of you clearly did. Don't post false information just because you don't know what you are talking about. Adam's death is shown in all versions. The deleted scene is the nightmare which happened BEFORE she killed Adam. That doesn't make his death non-canon because it happened BEFORE she killed Adam. Again, Adam's death is shown in the theatrical version. --98.221.192.218 20:14, November 11, 2011 (UTC)
The scene isn't canon. It was not in the theaterical run. Think of like the Kyle Reese scene in Terminator 2. But in anyway, since the scene was removed from the theatres, it does not count and Adam died of starvation.
Okay, no offense to either of you, 142.227.180.140 and 98.221.192.218, but I could not be more confused. 98.221.192.218 says that Adam's mercy killing was in the theatrical cut, whereas 142.227.180.140 says it was deleted. Could someone PLEASE tell me which one it was? TroopDude
Though I'm not making any assumptions, I'm just saying that the scene of Adam's mercy killing probably is canon, 'cos if Adam DID starve to death in the bathroom, then his corpse in Saw II should've looked a lot skinnier. TroopDude 19:25, December 16, 2011 (UTC)
Adam's mercy killing was never a deleted scene. I saw the the third movie opening day, as I did with all the Saw movies, and his death was shown. So, yeah, his death is canon. Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 00:17, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
Well, that pretty much clears that up. Thanks, WrathOfTheNerd9000. TroopDude, 16:26, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
I too saw it opening day and that scene was NOT in the film. So it's not canon. He died from starvation. END OF STORY.
So we've two people who say Adam's death was deleted, and another two who say it wasn't. Could this get any more confusing?! TroopDude, 21:02, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
I hope i can be the one to put this ugly edit duel to a close. I too saw it in theatres and i didn't see that particular scene. BUT, when Jigsaw was telling Amanda she was being tested, there is a brief section showing her putting a plastic bag over someone's head. Now since the actual death scene was cut, and this was too fast for people to determine it was Adam, i'm gonna say it isn't canon. Tdi7457 23:01 December 20 2011 (UTC)
What are you talking about? The guy she suffocates is clearly Adam. She even says his name when she wakes him up and says she's going to "free" him. You can also clearly see his face when Amanda touches it to wake him up. You obviously did not pay attention when you saw the movie.--98.221.192.253 14:49, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
Okay, but we should still make sure that was what WrathOfTheNerd9000 and 98.221.192.218 saw.
This picture is proof that he didn't starve. He was sufocated. Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 22:48, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
Adam's mercy killing by Amanda
Deleted Scenes Canon[]
We don't know for sure that all deleted scenes are non-canon! TroopDude
Games Canon?[]
My personal take on the games, is that I will never use them as a basis for truth. Mainly because, it has been far from Jigsaw's nature to reuse traps for multiple victims. And there is times in the game where traps are re-used. Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't explain why Obi, in Saw II, shows no hesitation of the furnace. If in the Video Game, he had infact suffered a game inside one, why would be be so willing to enter one again in the Nerve Gas House? Unlike when the movies are kept to themselves, the game *seems* to have inconsistancies that wouldn't match up with character personality.
If someone disagrees, so be it, don't hate on me for how I look upon the games and where they could fit, if anywhere, in the Timeline of the Saw FILMS. MasterBlaine 17:47, October 31, 2011 (UTC)
Both games take place between the first and second movies. Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 05:57, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
The second game is non-canon for sure, and the first is non-canon as well, although it is more canon than the second. Though the games claim to be in between the first two movies, they are implausible. There is no way that Jigsaw could have orchestrated an asylum to be filled with traps and also Michaels' traps (didn't play the second game). It was also clear that Tapp died in the first movie. TheMattMan095 07:49, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
Whether they're held as canon or non canon, they still take place between the first two movies. F**k joining the Sith. Who cares if they have cookies? Jedi have pancake mix! 13:26, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
True. Saboteur99 (talk) 19:25, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
The bag[]
What I never understood was why the bag wasn't still on his head in Saw 3D. I remember Amanda leaving the bag on his head in the third movie. Where is it now? Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 20:12, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
Probably just another production error, like Adam's shackle switching ankles between Saw and Saw II. TroopDude, 21:41, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps. Or maybe Gordon removed it before Hoffman woke up. Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 23:54, December 19, 2011 (UTC)
Amanda probably removed it off-screen after killing Adam. We don't see Amanda leave the bathroom. --68.45.60.20 01:36, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
Amanda probably removed the bag and propped Adam upright just in case Jigsaw came in to check out what was going on. TheMattMan095 07:51, January 17, 2012 (UTC)
Lock Page[]
If there was a wiki record for "recieving most vandals", this article would take the gold; if there is an admin reading this, I strongly recommend that this page be locked so that only registered contributors can edit it, 'cos I'm getting sick and tired of having to clean up all these vandals and idiots' mistakes. TroopDude, 21:30, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
We've had something even worse happening earlier this year. Some nut kept on saying Evan magically survived being thrown into a windshield. Kept on reverting it over and over again. Thou shall not escape the wrath of the nerd 22:36, December 24, 2011 (UTC)
Well , the thing is that Evan was meant to survive , and would be taken in hospital , but Evan's actor Chester Bennington was so busy that he had no time to film on that scene , so it was scrapped , and changed in Evan's ultimate death.. Kan98426
And it makes me wonder why they couldn't get a stunt double who looked like Chester being sent to the hospital. Would've been better than we we got. 2012 better kick @$$, 'cause we're supposed to die later. 00:58, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
I agree Saboteur99 (talk) 19:27, November 12, 2014 (UTC)
The "Adam died of starvation" IP is getting more annoying.[]
Adam's kidnapping was known from the start. Gordon's wife knew about Adam being held with Gordon. She told Gordon not to trust him. She clearly told the police about him. Gordon did not know about the bathroom because he was unconscious when Jigsaw dragged him from the floor. He woke up in a different place. He only found out about the location when Hoffman killed Jill. Calling me stubbornly stupid is ironic considering the fact that he refuses to accept the fact that Adam was suffocated to death. He did not die of starvation. Any ideas on which edit version should stay, TroopDude? 68.45.60.20 01:31, January 8, 2012 (UTC)
The only version of Saw 3 I saw was on YouTube, so I didn't see and can't say whether or not the scene of Adam's death was in the theatrical run. But unless and until someone can show some proof that Adam's death scene was or wasn't in the theatrical run of Saw 3, I suggest we keep it with the "Two Alternatives" thing. TroopDude, 15:39, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
How the hell Adam could be still alive?!?!? He was shot in shoulder , kept without food for 3 days , then suffocated with plastic sheet , and his nose was broken in process! HOW HE COULD BE ALIVE?!?!? If you dare to say that he's still alive , then also dare to say that Peter Strahm, or Steven Sing is still alive!! Yeah , nevermind that Strahm got all his bones crushed , and Sing was shot 5 times in a head, maybe they are still f****** alive , somehow!?!?!?!? Kan98426, January 8
Adam DID die of of suffocation. Though I'm not sure if the scene was theatrical or not, I recall Amanda admitting she killed Adam right before shooting Lynn Denlon. Hell, to back myself up, there was a glimpse of Amnda suffocating Adam immediately after admiting she was a murderer. 2012 better kick @$$, 'cause we're supposed to die later. 01:02, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcdgv6jcrdM look at this . This is my own video , I uploaded that in my channel . Look and see if you still think that Adam is still alive!
Dude, HE'S DEAD. Get over it. 2012 better kick @$$, 'cause we're supposed to die later. 13:25, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
I KNOW THAT HE'S DEAD , I just show that video to the bastards like IP , I try to get the truth in his thick skull...
Adam's Status[]
Someone recently deleted the part on this page where it says that the SAW site confirmed Adam's death. Did the SAW site really say that? If so, it should be put back on the page. TheMattMan095 00:29, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
I never saw anything like that on the official site. Unless someone provides a screenshot, I'm not buying it. 101.160.169.238 07:16, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
Checked it. He's dead. F**k joining the Sith. Who cares if they have cookies? Jedi have pancake mix! 13:25, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, he is DEAD! Look for yourself. Kan98426 18:47, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
Time Passed Since Adam's Death[]
So how much time passed between the time Amanda kills Adam and the time we see his skeleton in the bathroom at the end of Saw 3D? Different character pages have different times - Zep's has it as twenty months, while Adam's has it at two full years. Exactly how much time had passed in-series? Does anyone know? Muketsu37 03:02, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
Well, according to one of the makers of Saw (Darren Lynn Bousman I think it is), the films span two years altogether. TroopDude 17:47, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
As stated above, the movies span two years apart, so Adam's been in the bathroom for 2 years, same as Zep. It's probably because of my inability to care, because I really don't care. 02:41, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, thank you. I'm a little confused as to how, since it seems as though from Saw III/IV and on, the timeframe only seems to be a couple of months at most. I can accept it, though. Muketsu37 12:46, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Saw IV Script[]
Whoever keeps saying that Adam was supposed to be killed by Strahm in Saw IV, please stop. Not only does this not make sense (as Adam was long dead during Saw IV) there is no confirmation anywhere. GodDamnBats (talk) 09:56, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
He was to be killed by Strahm in Saw 4, but the developers removed it because the fact that Adam would be dying in Saw 4 would make 0 sense as he was locked away in Saw 1(Approximately 6 months before Saw 4) making it irrelevent, but yes, they did intend to add that in the prototype version of Saw IV
Theories Of Adam Being Alive[]
Theory 1: Maybe The Day After Jigsaw Left Him and Before Amanda Tried To Kill Him, He Probably Used His Flannel Shirt To Reach Zepps Gun. He Succeeded and Shot The Lock. As He Shot The Lock The Door Opened and Adam Played Dead as Amanda Entered And Attempts To Suffocate Adam. Later after He Fakes His Death, Mark Hoffman Could Have Entered and Hired Him To Be An Accomplice To Hoffman. Hoffman Couldn't Have Captured The Victims Of Either The Fatal Five or The Carousel Trap By Himself or How Would He Get The Pictures Of Bobby Dagen In Saw 3D Or For Riggs Test In Saw IV. So When Detective Hoffman Removed Adam's Body, He Replaced It With Detective Tapps Body. So Hoffman Could've had a Secret Apprentice Like Dr. Gordon Was John's Secret Accomplice.
Theory 2: Adam Could've Been Helping Dr. Gordon Take Pictures of Certain People. For Example; In Saw 3D How Would Dr. Gordon Get The Picture Of Lynn Denlon? He Could've Went Back And Revived Adam After Amanda's Attempt in Mercy Killing. Then Adam Would Help Dr. Gordon With The Pictures Of The Victims as Shown In Saw IV and Saw 3D. Dr. Gordon Also Could've Had Adam Captured Hoffman In One Of The Pigmasks. In The Saw 3D Commentary They Said it Was Brad and Ryan. But That Could Be a Lie. Like How They Said How The Person Who Put The Key Behind Michael's Eye In Saw II Wasn't Doctor Gordon? Exactly. Speaking of The Pigmasks at The End Of The Seventh Installment, There Are Many Suspects including Adam; Daniel Matthews, Daniel Rigg, Carla Yang, Allison Gordon, Jeff Ridenhour, Even Amanda Young.
3rd and Final Theory: In Saw III John Said That He Cleaned Up Amanda's Mistakes, Please Note He Said 'Mistakes' and not 'Mistake'. Like With Eric Matthews In Saw III and Saw IV. One of Those Mistakes Could've Been Her Mercy Killing For Adam. So John Decided To Let Adam Live and Have Amanda Believe He's Dead.
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